Grant Shapps clashed with broadcaster Kay Burley at the moment as Britain was hit by the largest rail strike in 30 years.
The transport secretary claimed Burley needed the nation to return to the 70s with ministers negotiating with unions with “beer and sandwiches”.
However the veteran broadcaster hit again, telling him: “You need to be getting around the desk and you have to be checking out this mess.”
It comes as greater than 50,000 members of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Staff (RMT) union walked out, bringing the nationwide rail community to a halt. London Underground staff are additionally placing.
In the course of the terse alternate on Sky Information, Shapps additionally insisted that prepare firms will push on with “modernisation” reforms that unions are placing over.
Burley requested him: “Why aren’t you rolling up your sleeves and getting across the desk with the unions this week in order that we received’t have one other two strikes?”
Shapps insisted the employers had been the individuals who needs to be negotiating with unions, including: “It’s all the time the employers and the unions who’ve to return to a settlement in this stuff.”
Burley instructed him: “Am I not proper in saying that the federal government is the one shareholder in Community Rail? It belongs to the federal government, the federal government units its funding. You’re concerned whether or not you say you’re or not. You’re the transport secretary. It’s your duty to maintain the nation operating. Why aren’t you rolling your sleeves up and sorting it out?”
Shapps stated if he thought there was a “one in 1,000,000 probability” that him being within the room would assist then he can be there.
Nonetheless, he stated ministers strolling into the room would “really undermine the method”.
He instructed Burley it was a “purple herring” and added: “You’re saying it as a result of the unions and Labour have immediately obtained collectively and stated ‘why aren’t ministers within the room?’.”
The cupboard minister stated when firefighters went on strike underneath Tony Blair it remained with employers and the identical when put up workplace staff went on strike underneath Gordon Brown.
He then instructed her: “I believe what you’re asking for, is for me to return to the kind of the unhealthy previous days of the 1970s the place the then Labour prime minister Harold Wilson had beer and sandwiches with them in Downing Avenue and it didn’t work out effectively.”
Burley hit again: “You’re the transport secretary, you characterize the federal government. In different phrases, ergo you characterize the travelling public and so they for the remainder of this week are going to be principally at a standstill, as you stated, individuals may die because of these strikes.
“It’s good to roll your sleeves up, you must get in that assembly room with the unions and you must type this out is what my viewers will probably be shouting at their tellies this morning.”
Shapps instructed her he had tried to clarify “a number of occasions” that was not the best way industrial disputes are resolved.
Burley replied: “OK, simply since you’ve defined it to me a number of occasions Mr Shapps doesn’t imply that your level is essentially legitimate.
“I am going again to the purpose that the federal government is the one shareholder in Community Rail – it belongs to the federal government, the federal government units its funding.
“How are you going to declare to not be concerned and to not wish to be concerned and never with the ability to get entangled when that’s the precise level?
“You need to be chatting with the unions, you have to be getting across the desk and you have to be checking out this mess.
“Your nation has come to a standstill and it’s your duty.”
Shapps once more claimed Burley needed to take the nation again to the 70s and added: “It is a stunt, which I’m afraid you’re falling for, by the unions and the Labour Social gathering.”
The transport secretary additionally stated new legal guidelines to permit versatile staff, corresponding to company workers, to cowl for these on strike could possibly be launched inside months.
He instructed LBC radio: “We’re going to change the legislation to make sure there will be rather more flexibility, the legislation which is usually known as company is definitely extra about transferability.
“That kind of modernisation will be achieved, if we will’t get it by settlement with the unions, by altering the legislation. And we’ll change the legislation in speedy order within the subsequent month or two to make sure that transferable abilities are allowed.”